Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

jkelley209 · Post by **jkelley209** » 16 Apr 2015, 11:08

Thanks very much. Did you see the video i did on the Lyman loads ? i did a work up on True Blue but wasn't anywhere near 2000 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTM2MswyLgg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jkelley209 · Post by **jkelley209** » 16 Apr 2015, 12:59

i've never heard of PBC673 who makes that?

Post by **panzermk2** » 17 Apr 2015, 07:23

jkelley209 wrote:i've never heard of PBC673 who makes that?

Wait for it..............PB.

Watch this video

http://www.pbclermont.be/video" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jkelley209 · Post by **jkelley209** » 17 Apr 2015, 07:54

WHERE CAN YOU GET IT IN THE US JAY? AND WHAT DO THE CALL IT HERE?

Post by **panzermk2** » 17 Apr 2015, 14:17

You can't in anyway get it, you can't import it, You can't even get to look visit the factory and look where it could be made.

If you could I would have.

Bazzer69 · Post by **Bazzer69** » 17 Apr 2015, 15:11

Are the powder makers trying to " choke" the USA ? Politics ?

Post by **Rapier1772** » 17 Apr 2015, 15:18

Personally I think it's the politics are trying to choke the powder supplies in the US.

However, there have also been actual supply issues not including the ever present hoarding. I think one major manufacturer even had a fire in which gunpowder wouldn't last long

Post by **panzermk2** » 17 Apr 2015, 15:18

No they are proprietary powders designed for FNH and under contract can only be made to order and only sold to FNH. This actually very common practice.

Bazzer69 · Post by **Bazzer69** » 17 Apr 2015, 15:24

FN is a Belgium Euro company , the Euro's mostly hate the USA , they supply NATO who also dislike the USA , yes I know the USA is a member. So it doesn't surprise me they are deliberately restricting supplies to the USA

Post by **blueorison** » 17 Apr 2015, 15:24

BUT HOW DO I GET SAME, I NED TO LDE THEM AMMUNTNS

Bazzer69 · Post by **Bazzer69** » 17 Apr 2015, 15:36

jkelley209 wrote:Thanks very much. Did you see the video i did on the Lyman loads ? i did a work up on True Blue but wasn't anywhere near 2000 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTM2MswyLgg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not that impressed with PB. Notice the big ding in one of the rounds near the end of the video ?

Post by **panzermk2** » 19 Apr 2015, 13:01

Bazzer69 wrote:
jkelley209 wrote: Not that impressed with PB. Notice the big ding in one of the rounds near the end of the video ?

Really? You have used PBC powder?

A ding in a test round used for that type of testing is irrelevant.

Bazzer69 · Post by **Bazzer69** » 19 Apr 2015, 13:21

Of course I not used the powder because I don't think it's available to the general public. If I was making a video about my products I would ensure all that was shown was perfect.
Ps what happened to the T6 I ordered?

Post by **panzermk2** » 19 Apr 2015, 19:22

PM Me the email address you used too order so I can resend your tracking number.

satellitedr3ams · Post by **satellitedr3ams** » 13 Jun 2015, 12:29

Confirmed that it will work with the Newer Trimpro2 Universal Shellholder and it fits tight too. Maybe not as nice as the EA one, but it still works! :thumb:
You can actually upgrade your earlier gen Trimpro to the new one with this here and it will accept several calibers - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/271401 ... conversion" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jkelley209 · Post by **jkelley209** » 14 Jun 2015, 14:48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIL8oVyowlM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lbaumann · Post by **Lbaumann** » 06 Nov 2015, 16:40

Please help with 40vmax. Accurate #7 powder. How many grains? Also how do fix dies so the neck properly

Tried rcbs ,lee same. Ordered some from Jay at EA
Tried some rounds at 6 g and some would jam and pop up clip
I got a lot of reloading under my belt. Looks like neck problem. Need help pleaseu

Post by **Rapier1772** » 06 Nov 2015, 17:03

First, for which platform are you loading? The FiveseveN, PS90, AR57, something else?
Since you said "pop up clip" I am assuming the PS90 or AR57. (BTW, they're magazines, not clips)

Here are some threads that should cover what you're looking for as far as powder charge. Just pick the one that applies to you firearm. http://www.fivesevenforum.com/search.ph ... mit=Search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Those threads are a good place to start anyway. Since the author's loads (for the PS90) for #7 went over 7gr and you're popping mags at 6gr, there may be something else going on.

I have no idea what you are trying to ask on this:

Also how do fix dies so the neck properly

If there is a problem with the neck, it might help to post pictures of the cases. The instructions for how to post pics are linked in my sig line.

Post by **panzermk2** » 09 Nov 2015, 10:21

He is having issues with the sizer die body on his RCBS dies, that is what he is referring to.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 09 Nov 2015, 10:41

Then it's a manufacturer's problem, not much he can do except return it & get a different/better set of dies.

Lbaumann · Post by **Lbaumann** » 17 Nov 2015, 18:50

Should there be a small gap between barrel and receiver. Took them out and put new fac round in
When I closed the two components togeather. I could see a very small gap (brass)
Thank you ,Larry Baumann. PS90

shootinbuzzards · Post by **shootinbuzzards** » 23 Aug 2016, 11:55

I have been loading 5.7 for about 4 years now and produce a variety of nastiness for both the gun range and any varmint that steps in front of my new addition to my PS90 (EOTech laser holographic weapons sight)
These are addictive once you start using one. Back to the reload info: Favorite powders are AA#7 for 50 grain & up bullets and vihtavuori N340 for up to 45 grain. Use a rock chucker single stage and refuse to change to anything different. The shell holder comes from ***********Elite Ammunition******** money well spent. The case trimmer -- RCBS but if you are going to load several invest in a Tungsten Carbide trim head as I load about 300 - 600 at a time. Note: trim length has been verified to work well at !.35 .

shootinbuzzards · Post by **shootinbuzzards** » 23 Aug 2016, 11:56

I also have the 5.7 FN . It keeps my PS90 company when out in the wild

shootinbuzzards · Post by **shootinbuzzards** » 23 Aug 2016, 11:58

shootinbuzzards wrote:I also have the 5.7 FN . It keeps my PS90 company when out in the wild

Definition of A Buzzard: Anything undesirable that deserves to be shot!!!!!!!!

Toaster · Post by **Toaster** » 23 Aug 2016, 13:27

I've been reloading old brass for a while and have run into a few problems I felt worth noting.

The RCBS shell holder destroys the rim because it has a lip on it that becomes imprinted in the brass. the Brass is also loose and wobbly in it leading to laquer scraping off one side and bullets seating cocked. In my opinion it makes it fairly unusable.

I have a Redding shell holder thats on the way, should work as it doesnt have the step. Any others experiencing this? Why has no one made a proper shell holder for single stage presses?

grimmond · Post by **grimmond** » 23 Aug 2016, 18:38

Toaster wrote:I've been reloading old brass for a while and have run into a few problems I felt worth noting.

The RCBS shell holder destroys the rim because it has a lip on it that becomes imprinted in the brass. the Brass is also loose and wobbly in it leading to laquer scraping off one side and bullets seating cocked. In my opinion it makes it fairly unusable.

I have a Redding shell holder thats on the way, should work as it doesnt have the step. Any others experiencing this? Why has no one made a proper shell holder for single stage presses?

Actually one has been made. The company is CH4D. They are some of the best dies I have ever come across. Elite is also carrying the die set from them.

Toaster · Post by **Toaster** » 24 Aug 2016, 14:29

I got the rcBS dies as a gift so I really didnt chose them. I picked up the shell holder at the local store,.

Ill take another look at the CH4d
Item #:40834 $9.28
Item #:40834X $9.28
Difference?

Also anyone know the difference between the 2 piece die set offered on their site and the EA is a 3 piece?

Thank all

Toaster · Post by **Toaster** » 24 Aug 2016, 14:29

I got the rcBS dies as a gift so I really didnt chose them. I picked up the shell holder at the local store,.

Ill take another look at the CH4d
Item #:40834 $9.28
Item #:40834X $9.28
Difference?

Also anyone know the difference between the 2 piece die set offered on their site and the EA is a 3 piece?

Thank all

DoubleJ · Post by **DoubleJ** » 24 Aug 2016, 15:27

I seriously must have lucked out with my Lee dies. Once I put a primer-nipple-channel in the shell holder, they've been nothing but perfect.

grimmond · Post by **grimmond** » 24 Aug 2016, 19:13

The difference between the 2 is that one has a hole in it to eject primers out from. The other is a solid flat bottom which I use when sizing the cases. I deprime in a seperate step then with sizing.

Post by **panzermk2** » 25 Aug 2016, 05:05

Toaster wrote:I got the rcBS dies as a gift so I really didnt chose them. I picked up the shell holder at the local store,.

Ill take another look at the CH4d
Item #:40834 $9.28
Item #:40834X $9.28
Difference?

grimmond wrote:The difference between the 2 is that one has a hole in it to eject primers out from. The other is a solid flat bottom which I use when sizing the cases. I deprime in a seperate step then with sizing.

Toaster wrote: Also anyone know the difference between the 2 piece die set offered on their site and the EA is a 3 piece?

Thank all

We include a CH4D crimp die. Also just an FYI the set we sell has one shell holder in it, not 2 and the one is not a CH4D holder. It is from another supplier.

Lekim · Post by **Lekim** » 25 Jan 2019, 20:17

Has anyone tried the 5.7x28 conversion kit from AZ-Born; https://az-born.com/ ? I bought a new Dillon XL650 progressive about a year ago. Am in the process of moving everything I can from the Rockchucker and Piggyback over to the new progressive. Don't get to spend a lot of time playing with it so it's been a slow go. I haven't gotten the advertised throughput out of it yet (still tweaking set-ups) but by comparison, it's a dream versus my green gear. Was majorly bummed when I found out Dillon doesn't offer a 5.7 caliber conversion kit for any of their presses. Started looking at some other internet forums and found some older threads where a couple of guys were attempting to prototype their own a few years ago but gave up after a while. Not sure why. Then I happened to come across AZ Born. Looks like a quality product and they've posted some videos on youtube so looks legit. Before I plunk down 150 clams, thought I'd ask the experts here if anyone had seen and tried this "after-market" kit.

Thanks,
Lekim

GONRA · Post by **GONRA** » 27 Jan 2019, 17:58

GONRA loads 9mm and .45 ACP SMG ammo on my Dillon.
But one should carefully load ANY 5.7x28mm FN ammo on a SINGLE STAGE PRESS, CAREFULLY WEIGHING POWDER CHARGES, to avoid chambering issues and worse yet - KABOOMS!

FNFbobcat · Post by **FNFbobcat** » 01 Nov 2020, 09:29

I ordered a RCBS #29 shell holder (.25 ACP) because supplier listed it as being interchangeable with 5.7x28FN. It is NOT! Too small, had to force 5.7 brass in and had a heck of a time getting it out. Be sure to order items that are 5.7 specific (RCBS #45). Beware of any supplier that lists components as being interchangeable between .25ACP and 5.7x28FN.

bluerev · Post by **bluerev** » 10 Dec 2020, 17:46

FNFbobcat wrote: ↑
01 Nov 2020, 09:29
I ordered a RCBS #29 shell holder (.25 ACP) because supplier listed it as being interchangeable with 5.7x28FN. It is NOT! Too small, had to force 5.7 brass in and had a heck of a time getting it out. Be sure to order items that are 5.7 specific (RCBS #45). Beware of any supplier that lists components as being interchangeable between .25ACP and 5.7x28FN.

Damn, I wonder if the Lee #15 holder will cause the same issue..... It says it is for 25 ACP as well. I am thinking about ordering one....

FNFbobcat · Post by **FNFbobcat** » 12 Dec 2020, 09:39

I have a Lee #15. Works fine. Some brands are interchangeable, some are not.

GaCop · Post by **GaCop** » 23 Nov 2024, 11:33

I tried loading 5.7 for a friend's 5.7 S&W pistol, I used the Lee die set. Read everything I could in the reloading section. Cases were full length sized but none of the rounds would chamber in his pistol.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 24 Nov 2024, 21:04

GaCop wrote: ↑
23 Nov 2024, 11:33
I tried loading 5.7 for a friend's 5.7 S&W pistol, I used the Lee die set. Read everything I could in the reloading section. Cases were full length sized but none of the rounds would chamber in his pistol.

Do you have a Go-No Go gauge? That would indicate (to me at least) if it was the gun or the dies. Could you tell what was getting stuck?

Post by **panzermk2** » 25 Nov 2024, 10:50

Also , Lee did change their reloading dies and honesty they suck.

I suspect you might have bumped the case to much and bulged the shoulder out.

CH4D makes the best dies including crimp die.
Hornady make a really nice 2 dies set.

The Lee dies though for the 5.7 just don't work well and their crimp dies is shit, pure shit

Check out this play list from Lee crimp hell

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ...

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